In this present reality, there is much to be thankful for.
I'm thankful for a generous orthodoxy. For me, someone who leans American Baptist can converse and break open brews with a Presbyterian should be happy that disagreements offer greater friendships.
You?
--Nick
Showing posts with label Orthodoxy. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Orthodoxy. Show all posts
Saturday, November 24, 2012
Sunday, August 26, 2012
Breaking Bread within a Divided Orthodoxy
Simply put, what theological ideas, opinions, and doctrines should we refuse the breaking of bread over? I know arminians that wouldn't be caught dead breaking bread with egalitarians, and I know calvinists who would rather pull out their teeth than break bread with a republican.
So, what should divide us? As I see it, the breaking of bread is a sacred act. The willingness to sit, eat and fellowship together is something that, in it's own way, gets us closer to God. Think about it.
We eat to sustain ourselves, but we also eat to enjoy it. The same with drink. We loosen our guard when we sit, relax and open up sustenance with another brother or sister. I wonder if it is because we are afraid of changing our minds, or compromising our beliefs. Part of doesn't want to break bread with those that I disagree with. I won't name anyone, but suffice to say I'm not quite proud of who makes that list.
In my changing mind, I think it becomes sin when we exclude other believers and refuse communion with them. Not communion in a doctrinal or liturgical sense, but in the sense of fellowship and community. We are a community of believers and sinners. It seems odd that we would section ourselves off from one another. Paul called out Peter pretty strongly about refusing to eat with Gentiles, calling it contrary to the Gospel.
Are we not fulfilling the Gospel if we refuse to break bread with other believers? And at what point do we put doctrine over fellowship? I remember that this schism started over the concept of compromising fellowship and doctrine, and for many, doctrine trumps fellowship.
Should it?
Part of me says yes. There are some things that I think Scripture clearly doesn't teach. but I also feel compelled to say that Christians are quicker to divide with other Christians, and I fear what the world sees when that division takes precedence. There is a time and place for loving division.
But at what cost? Exclusion of other Christians that we view as "barely" Christian? What about atheists and skeptics and post-christians and progressives and dispensationalists and those who hold to covenant theology? What about the Eastern Church and Catholics?
If we are a community, then we are the most fractious collection of children in our collective playpens. We tend to not play well with other kids. Maybe the point is to create a community where disagreement is encouraged, provided it is done in the pursuit of truth. Maybe the point is larger than us. Maybe instead a community simply needs to be created so apologetics and outreach can flourish.
We are that community.
--Nick
So, what should divide us? As I see it, the breaking of bread is a sacred act. The willingness to sit, eat and fellowship together is something that, in it's own way, gets us closer to God. Think about it.
We eat to sustain ourselves, but we also eat to enjoy it. The same with drink. We loosen our guard when we sit, relax and open up sustenance with another brother or sister. I wonder if it is because we are afraid of changing our minds, or compromising our beliefs. Part of doesn't want to break bread with those that I disagree with. I won't name anyone, but suffice to say I'm not quite proud of who makes that list.
In my changing mind, I think it becomes sin when we exclude other believers and refuse communion with them. Not communion in a doctrinal or liturgical sense, but in the sense of fellowship and community. We are a community of believers and sinners. It seems odd that we would section ourselves off from one another. Paul called out Peter pretty strongly about refusing to eat with Gentiles, calling it contrary to the Gospel.
Are we not fulfilling the Gospel if we refuse to break bread with other believers? And at what point do we put doctrine over fellowship? I remember that this schism started over the concept of compromising fellowship and doctrine, and for many, doctrine trumps fellowship.
Should it?
Part of me says yes. There are some things that I think Scripture clearly doesn't teach. but I also feel compelled to say that Christians are quicker to divide with other Christians, and I fear what the world sees when that division takes precedence. There is a time and place for loving division.
But at what cost? Exclusion of other Christians that we view as "barely" Christian? What about atheists and skeptics and post-christians and progressives and dispensationalists and those who hold to covenant theology? What about the Eastern Church and Catholics?
If we are a community, then we are the most fractious collection of children in our collective playpens. We tend to not play well with other kids. Maybe the point is to create a community where disagreement is encouraged, provided it is done in the pursuit of truth. Maybe the point is larger than us. Maybe instead a community simply needs to be created so apologetics and outreach can flourish.
We are that community.
--Nick
Wednesday, July 4, 2012
Allah: A Christian Response; Introduction
SETTING THE STAGE
For my birthday, (thanks Noel) I was given a book by Miroslav Volf, a theologian from Yale who studied under Jurgen Moltmann (a personal hero of mine). The book is entitled "Allah: A Christian Response." Thanks mostly in part to Scot McKnight, I became intrigued by the notion put forth by Volf, in that Muslims and Christians worship the same God. Volf does not claim to be a pluralist, and he appears to embrace the trinity in it's orthodox formation. In fact, based on his past, I see very little that doesn't fall under the label "evangelical," which I admit to me is a broad term.
So I cannot instantly dismiss the book, as it appears to be coming from a sharp and articulate evangelical scholar. One who has his pulse on world religions,conflict and reconciliation. Whether or not he is correct, I find that the books that challenge me the most are the one's I always love.
These books are "The Evangelical Universalist" by Robin Parry, "The Coming of God" by Jurgen Moltmann, and "The God of the Possible" by Gregory Boyd. The list is sure to expand.
GENERAL STREAM OF THOUGHT
Allah came out around the same time as Rob Bell's Love Wins. Rob Bell flirted with Universalism and I do not think he embraced the doctrine. You can read my thoughts here. What I find interesting is that Rob Bell's book, which challenges an evangelical tennant, namely the "born again" experience, drew a firestorm. Volf's Allah didn't. And Volf's book challenges the very exclusive nature of the Christian faith, including the "born again" experience, but also the very concept of who God is and the truth about his revelation to us. This is powerful material and a true paradigm shift of the Christian faith is Volf is correct.
it could be the it is dangerous to talk/write about Islam, but as Bell showed us, tampering with much of anything beyond classic Christian restrictivism pretty much leads to a theological witch hunt.
"Will God save everybody?" is not the same as the question below.
"Do Muslims and Christians worship the same God?"
That is the question posed on the back cover of Allah. Quite provocative. With endorsements from Brian McLaren and Mona Siddiqui, including some kind words from Scot McKnight (whose endorsement is not on the book, but he spoke highly of it in a lecture about Rob Bell's Love Wins).
THE ONE GOD AND THE GREAT CHASM; AN INTRODUCTION
"My interest here is the proper Christian stance toward the God of the Qu'ran and what that stance means for Christians' and Muslims' ability to live together well in a single and endangered world." (pg1).
To again quote Volf, "the stakes are high." For him, this is a universal problem. A cursory glance over the chapter titles includes references to extremism and reconciliation. Muslims and Christians combined constitute over one half of the earth's population, and if these two religions are involved in a war of escalations (so to speak) then we have a problem that involves everybody. Volf doesn't see much of the conflict, in it's current state, going away. Especially in regards to natural resources and population.
At this point, I don't necessarily disagree with anything Volf has written. One slight glance at a news channel or a headline will attest to the current instability of a majority of the world's regions.
Volf's past is briefly visited. He was born in a country that "no longer exists." Yugoslavia. Though brief, this does set the stage for Volf's thinking, and he is writing primarily to a Christian audience.
CONCLUSION
I'm frankly not convinced by his thesis, but I am eager to see what Volf has in store for us. Quite well-written, and quite interested in reconciliation. If Volf is indeed right, that changes some very foundational aspects of orthodoxy.
We should probably listen and see what Volf says.
For my birthday, (thanks Noel) I was given a book by Miroslav Volf, a theologian from Yale who studied under Jurgen Moltmann (a personal hero of mine). The book is entitled "Allah: A Christian Response." Thanks mostly in part to Scot McKnight, I became intrigued by the notion put forth by Volf, in that Muslims and Christians worship the same God. Volf does not claim to be a pluralist, and he appears to embrace the trinity in it's orthodox formation. In fact, based on his past, I see very little that doesn't fall under the label "evangelical," which I admit to me is a broad term.
So I cannot instantly dismiss the book, as it appears to be coming from a sharp and articulate evangelical scholar. One who has his pulse on world religions,conflict and reconciliation. Whether or not he is correct, I find that the books that challenge me the most are the one's I always love.
These books are "The Evangelical Universalist" by Robin Parry, "The Coming of God" by Jurgen Moltmann, and "The God of the Possible" by Gregory Boyd. The list is sure to expand.
GENERAL STREAM OF THOUGHT
Allah came out around the same time as Rob Bell's Love Wins. Rob Bell flirted with Universalism and I do not think he embraced the doctrine. You can read my thoughts here. What I find interesting is that Rob Bell's book, which challenges an evangelical tennant, namely the "born again" experience, drew a firestorm. Volf's Allah didn't. And Volf's book challenges the very exclusive nature of the Christian faith, including the "born again" experience, but also the very concept of who God is and the truth about his revelation to us. This is powerful material and a true paradigm shift of the Christian faith is Volf is correct.
it could be the it is dangerous to talk/write about Islam, but as Bell showed us, tampering with much of anything beyond classic Christian restrictivism pretty much leads to a theological witch hunt.
"Will God save everybody?" is not the same as the question below.
"Do Muslims and Christians worship the same God?"
That is the question posed on the back cover of Allah. Quite provocative. With endorsements from Brian McLaren and Mona Siddiqui, including some kind words from Scot McKnight (whose endorsement is not on the book, but he spoke highly of it in a lecture about Rob Bell's Love Wins).
THE ONE GOD AND THE GREAT CHASM; AN INTRODUCTION
"My interest here is the proper Christian stance toward the God of the Qu'ran and what that stance means for Christians' and Muslims' ability to live together well in a single and endangered world." (pg1).
To again quote Volf, "the stakes are high." For him, this is a universal problem. A cursory glance over the chapter titles includes references to extremism and reconciliation. Muslims and Christians combined constitute over one half of the earth's population, and if these two religions are involved in a war of escalations (so to speak) then we have a problem that involves everybody. Volf doesn't see much of the conflict, in it's current state, going away. Especially in regards to natural resources and population.
At this point, I don't necessarily disagree with anything Volf has written. One slight glance at a news channel or a headline will attest to the current instability of a majority of the world's regions.
Volf's past is briefly visited. He was born in a country that "no longer exists." Yugoslavia. Though brief, this does set the stage for Volf's thinking, and he is writing primarily to a Christian audience.
CONCLUSION
I'm frankly not convinced by his thesis, but I am eager to see what Volf has in store for us. Quite well-written, and quite interested in reconciliation. If Volf is indeed right, that changes some very foundational aspects of orthodoxy.
We should probably listen and see what Volf says.
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